My Stand-In (2024) Episode 4

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  2. I can’t express just how angry I got at this episode. Ming is a toxic, unhinged, selfish nutcase. I don’t know how they are going to redeem him because right now I wish he was the one who went off the cliff.
    Even the ending with him at their house does very little to pacify my anger. Joe was right, Ming did ruin his life, both professionally and personally. Seriously, everyone got to move on happily, and that jerk Tong got to be an even bigger star, while poor Joe doesn’t even turn up on internet search. Seeing that part made me so sad before I went right back to anger because it was all because of Ming.
    I know there were comments saying Sol isn’t any better, but right now, I will take him over Ming any day. Ming, I want to strangle, then beat senseless then have him walk across burning coals before I even begin to think about forgiveness.

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  3. I am very proud that Joe was firmed about breaking up with Ming. Actually, I was surprised that Ming acknowledged Joe as his boyfriend. I thought they were not officially together.

    Ming had the audacity to tell Joe that when he told him to come home, he had to come home 🤦‍♀️ Even though I knew that Ming had a terrible personality, but it was still shocking that he hit Joe and locked him up. He did it not for Tong but because of jealousy and possessiveness. Ming didn’t care that this would end Joe’s career as he arrogantly thought that he could give Joe anything as long as he was with him. But he had forgotten that he could not buy Joe’s dignity. And I think Ming agreed to let Joe top him because he realised that he really loved him.

    I think Ming meant to tell Joe that he wouldn’t be anyone’s stand in as he loved him but too bad, phone was out of battery. Hence, it didn’t come as a surprise that Ming continued to live at Joe’s house, while waiting for him to come home. It was still unforgiving that he hurt Joe terribly and ruin his life.

    By the way, the hair pulling fight between Ming and Sol was 😅 Mom told Joe to dry himself and change after being drenched in rain. Isn’t it better to quickly have a hot shower instead? 🤔

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  4. LA Joe is different from the novel Ah Xiang. Ah Xiang is already kind and soft hearted but Joe really took it to another level. He still cooked breakfast for Ming🥲. “In the novel Ah Xiang shoved MingXiu away harshly and fled frantically from his own home. Then he drove aimlessly as he didn’t know where he should go. He can’t go to Wei Ge’s (P’Wut) house because his sister-in-law is pregnant and he doesn’t want to disturb them. And so after driving aimlessly in that winter night, he decided to go to the compand and stayed in Wei Ge’s office.”

    Ming kept saying that he can give Joe what he needs or wants but he’s not listening to Joe at all. Ah Xiang is a character who’s easily satisfied. He’s not rich but he’s also not poor. Even though his parents passed away early he never had a problem with money. All he wants is to have someone who he can spend his life with, someone he’ll love and someone who’ll love him. Joe deserve all the best in the world. Ming, sweetie you are making it so hard for me to trust you. You deserve to grovel and grovel so hard.

    The iconic fight scene of Yan MingXiu (Ming) and Lan XiRong (Sol) 🤣🤣 LMAO 🤣🤣. At least no other people saw it aside from P’Wut. In the novel there are few people who saw it. So embarrassing and funny 🤣🤣. The background music didn’t help at all🤣. Also, MingXiu was way more crazy in the novel because he deliberately focused his punches on XiRong’s face. He really hated Lan XiRong. That’s the reason why he didn’t want Ah Xiang to participate in that project. Ming knows that Joe accepting that project will greatly help his career but he really HATED the idea of Joe being close with Sol. BUT don’t you dare forgive him yet. Especially the ending of this episode. For me, he deserves to grovel hard and his character development arc is not yet enough.

    I have a like-hate relationship with Lan XiRong as he also did his fair share of annoying things but Sol… I kinda like him now. If I disregard XiRong from the novel then I’m rooting for Sol in the LA. He’s actually pretty decent.

    That shitty snake! I really want to bury him alive. Just because of his connection to Ming’s family, he dares to act like that. Joe again is used as a scape goat between Director Pao and that snake. P’Wut also is kinda different from Wei Ge in the novel. I know and I can see the brotherhood between P’Wut and Joe but dyk that in the novel it was Wei Ge who convinced Ah Xiang to accept that lead role offered by Director Pao? Because since Ah Xiang already offended that snake (yes, I’m not gonna say his name even the og from the novel) and he will surely receive some backlash from that snake’s fans as it was already rumored (everyone already knows) that the lead role of Director Pao’s next project is that snake. Then his reputation will surely hit rock bottom and it’ll be difficult for him to get any stunt jobs or any job in that industry. It’s a lose-lose situation and so him accepting it won’t really change anything. But rather it could give him a slight chance of finally making a break through. That snake and Ming didn’t directly kill Joe but they pushed him in that direction. So Ming… grovel hard.

    This will probably piss you all more. In the novel, after that snake attended the conference as the lead role he eventually dropped the project. He actually didn’t want it. He just hated Director Pao and more importantly, he didn’t want a mere stuntman to take his “place”. So the project was eventually scrapped.

    I’m really thankful for Joe2’s mom for giving the maternal love that Joe longed for. And so I fully understand if Joe would do anything for her.

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  5. Got two words for Ming – Incorrigible Whacko!
    He went from emotionally abusing him to physically abusing. The dude is relentless. 😧

    You might hate me for saying this, but the accident was a good thing for Joe, at least he got the much needed respite from Ming.

    Now he’s become a redemption seeking widow. Well it’s going to be so interesting from here on in.

    P. S – That was some pretty smart manoeuvring on Joe’s part, good old seduction always works 😉

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  6. PART 2… Also, I’m sorry Joe didn’t need to take that job. He had so many warnings he ignored. He was foolish for taking that risk and doing it in plain desperation!😮‍💨😔 As Joe slowly walked to his motorbike. I was so anxious bc I knew what was going to happen to him. I couldn’t even look at it this time. Joe saying yes to the main role only to prove he isn’t a stand in anymore to Ming was so frustrating to hear. Joe should have done it for himself not the approval of Ming or anyone else😏

    Joe was cold, firm and straight-forward with Ming when he told him he wanted to end things. He stood his ground and didn’t sob in front of Ming even tho he was hurting so deeply👏 I was so proud of him and I Loved It!❤️ I just wish Joe had thrown Ming’s stuff out from the start instead and in the process changed the locks to his place, lol. I wouldn’t trust someone like Ming not to burn or trash my house on their way out. I know those of you who have read the novel keep saying Sol is annoying and an a-hole there but so far in this adaptation he’s been a star and I love how he kicked Ming’s a*s🥳

    That’s right, you have your dignity, Joe and you don’t want to be anybody’s stand in as you shouldn’t be💪 But I didn’t like when Joe said, he thought he wasn’t as good as Tong bc 1) we know that isn’t true and 2) he shouldn’t be comparing himself to literal trash or anyone else for that matter😏

    I kept yelling at the screen, Don’t turn your back on him and when he did, I wasn’t shocked to see what Ming ended up doing. I WAS RA GING AND LIV*D!!!🤬😤💥 I’m ready to see Joe fight back now and get the life he should have had all along and to make Tong & Ming pay for what they did💪💪💪

    Side note: You know, I usually like to see back hugs and all the affection it shows but after this series aired and what those back hugs mean here, I’m feeling nauseated when I see them lately🤢😭

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  7. PART 1… After this episode there’s no doubt Tong and Ming exhibit most of the signs of Antisocial Personality Disorder. They “exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others. Lack concern, regret or remorse about other people’s distress. Behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behavior. Have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships.” And in this case, also have narcissistic traits and tendencies. I’m actually surprised that Tong and Ming haven’t taken each other out in the quest to be top dog but that’s bc Tong made Ming inferior to him long ago and Ming bought that. It’s the reason why Ming thought he had the rights to keep pushing Joe around even after finding out what he said and did and in Joe’s house🤬🤯😏 I liked that Wut wanted Joe to clear the mess with Ming before his big role reveal at the press conference but Ming is the type of possessive, selfish a-hole that doesn’t take no for an answer.

    All this means that Joe or anyone else in that situation wouldn’t be able to reason with them with logical thoughts and facts. Tong/ Ming don’t understand them and manipulate info to their own flawed understanding. Ming meant it when he said that he only cares about Joe being with Sol bc he (Ming) thinks he owns Joe. I thought it was genius when Joe asked to top or be behind Ming, essentially changing the power dynamics between them. And also giving him (Joe) a chance to do what he did – literally FIGHTING!!!💪💪💪 YAY!!!👏🥳 Tho I was upset to see that right before his death and getting that call from Ming, he couldn’t delete Ming as a contact, something so many victims of domestic violence do😔

    So, the blacklist was also likely why no one went asking questions and looking for Joe, not just the unlicensed part of that production company. And he couldn’t go to the police without his gay “status” being outed and judged, essentially also k illing his career before it even got started officially. I’m upset and disappointed tho that Wut and Sol didn’t go searching for Joe since they actually cared for him. Joe really did underestimate the evil that Tong and Ming are. He found out too late😭 If anyone ever holds you against your will like that, you have to fight for your life and leave🙏 Irl that person rarely changes for the better😔 These writers better write a miracle to redeem Ming bc so far I don’t see how I’m ever going to be ok with MingJoe endgame in the past life or this new one Joe has😏

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  10. Ming is toxic and beyond redemption but my goodness, I loathe Tong 😭😭. I can’t even stand seeing him and hate how he got exactly what he wanted in the end 😒😒. I’ve read the book and I hope they do more justice to his character in the series than in the book 😩😩.

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  11. I need to take some dramamine from all the eye rolling I did at the end of the ep.
    I all I could do was scream.. are they really trying to make me feel sorry for Ming. Still living in Joe’s old place like he’s there waiting on him to return.

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  12. Book spoilers for this episode and it’s not good. I’ll be sticking with the series names and not the book version names. Also mentions a bit about the trailer as well.

    It’s way worse in the book. Which is why I breathed a sigh of relief when they didn’t do that dubcon scene. Instead they flipped it around in the series and had Joe fake-seducing Ming so he could get outta there. My boy has spunk. But I understand perspectives can be different if you haven’t read the novel (or at least part of it). And yeah even someone who has read the novel can have a different perspective from me. But anyways, Ming is a ‘scum’ male lead (I’m not sure if I’m getting this right but characters like him make up the 188 scum gong group which is basically certain main leads of the series that Professional Body Double or The Professional Substitute is a part of).

    There’s a trope in damnei novels (these are Chinese novels with same s*x male relationships) called wife chasing in the crematorium. I’d like to think of it as “you don’t appreciate what you have until you lose them.” The relationship basically has one character wronging the other, and then after the one who was wrong disappears/dies/breaks away from the other one, there’s the realization that this was the person you’ve loved all your life but you’ve f*cked up immensely. (I hope I got that right).

    In a previous post (ep 3), I did mention that the feelings are mutual however to reiterate Joe loves with his whole heart and Ming’s feelings are still tainted by his obsession over Tong which is why it was best that Joe did not enable Ming’s behaviour. Even this episode, with Ming confessing that he just wants Joe is motivated by selfishness because part of him can’t get Tong’s influence out of his mind. Plus the thing is, Joe didn’t get away from Ming because he wanted him to come after him. That’s not Joe. He doesn’t do games. Joe (in this new body and idk if he’ll ever get his original back) just wants to live his life.

    Maybe it’s because I’m currently reading one of the 188 scum gong books that’ sending my blood pressure up that this one doesn’t faze me one bit. Ming is terrible, messed up but he has a lot of feelings underneath unlike a certain manipulative character from that other book that I would like to d*e in a fire.

    And because Joe doesn’t do games, if Ming starts playing games with Joe, well, he deserves to suffer all his life. But I don’t think Ming will end up like that. It’s the whole living in Joe’s place that shows that Ming hasn’t moved on from him. But that’s just one little thing. Once he realizes Joe is actually alive, I can’t wait for him to work his a** off to prove to Joe that he wants to be with him without any hidden agenda. As I’ve mentioned in another previous post, I’m thinking ahead. But as of now, I just want Joe to be back on his feet and not worrying about Ming.

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  13. Ming is the cause of Joe’s death, maybe not directly, but a big part of it. But the action of these two actors Poom and Up made my heart skip beats. I got all kinds of emotions. I love this episode so much.
    Ming is such a mean and dangerous guy, but he falls for Joe too. Evil can fall in love and it will be always toxic. He locked Joe as an animal and unlocked him because he wanted to have sex with him. 🤮
    I love the idea that Ming has been waiting for Joe to come back for the last 2 years. He deserves to feel that pain. Up’s facial experience is fantastic, it made me feel pity for Ming. Not for the novel’s one.
    I hope new Joe will give him a hard time.

    P.S. Sol went back to Korea, I was wondering if he knew that Joe died in accident not just disappeared since there were no news about Joe’s accident.

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  16. I’m proud of Joe with how he handled things with Ming. Man was firm to end things with that a*hole and he stood his ground despite being so heartbroken! (I want to hug him so bad 🤧🤧)

    The only thing I disagree with Joe is how he wants the main role to prove that he isn’t just Tong’s stand-in. He should do that for himself, not for anyone’s approval. Also, Joe needs to understand that he’s not inferior to Tong in any way because Tong is a literal TRASH.

    Joe, don’t compare yourself to TRASH that’s what a madman does!

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  17. It’s VERY TRUE that arrogance is a prominent feature of narcissistic behaviour. Arrogant individuals often exhibit narcissistic traits. Ming has a disregard for others’feelings.
    The low-level narcissistic pervert. He is rejected, he does emotional blackmail and then he manipulates!!! WOW!
    And it got to the point of physical violence??
    As in all bls the bad characters have a happy ending: I HOPE this writer will not dare to make JO Ming characters the end game.
    MING AND TONG are two SICK people!!
    They will try to find a way to give Ming a second chance… After chaining Joe under Tong’s command and making him lose his job and his life: Ming had a REVELATION: Love for Jo.
    I call this Bullshit!

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  18. MING NEEDS TO GROVEL. HE NEEDS TO DO IT REAL BAD.

    Ming living in Joe’s old apartment will not erase everything (especially the illegal things) he did.

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    1. From te preview of ep 5, I don’t think he is going to grovel, he acts like it’s Joe who owes him something. He really does need to do it, but I don’t have big expectations honestly, because from the first few episodes we know that Joe is impressed by the less than minimum.

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  19. This episode breaks my heart I feel so bad for Joe, why do selfish people get everything from ruining others’ lives? I hope those people get their bad karma for hurting our lovely Joe. And Joe’s acting abilities are exceptional, his eyes convey so much.

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  20. Am just waiting for Joe to shine bright in the industry and ruin tong… Ming and Joe will eventually end up together because they are the leads… but right now am so angry at Ming and don’t even feel sympathy towards him that he’s waiting for Joe even after 2 years…he deserve this pain even more than this
    That scene of Ming and sol made me dying 😂

    Hope now director will give Joe some happiness and success

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  21. I’m saying that Tong is the root of all evils in this story. It started with his greed once he met May, one of the heirs to the Akkrayotha Group’s family.

    He doesn’t care about the film crew. With the wealthy in-laws backing him, he doesn’t have to respect anyone from the director, the crew or the cast. After all, parts of the film finance come from the Akkrayotha Group.

    My blood boiled seeing him mocking Wut. Argh!

    He even got Joe blacklisted and Pao…

    So far the script is good as long as it does not stray from the original novel. We could already see Joe has been cornered into a difficult situation in this film industry after meeting Ming.

    Of course Ming is totally unaware of his part in ruining the original Joe’s life work. I’m crossing fingers hoping the reincarnated Joe would not let his story repeat. New Joe does not need to shine to prove he’s better than Tong. He should be riddance of Ming.

    Too sad that Joe did not have the luxury of learning English growing up as an orphan. If only he could catch the foreigner’s complaint about the work crew’s set-up.

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  22. After watching today’s episode and punching my pillow imagining as tong and p’ming to vent out my anger since I can’t scream or I’ll be asked why then I’ll have to say am watching bl ,which I can’t hehe😅.
    Am glad to have Saturday for my green flag yoryak from wandee god day,luckily
    And side note though tong has a punchable face as we can all agree but has anyone noticed he kinda looks like khaoutong you A.K.A red flag sand from only friends.But it could be just me 🤭……see y’all next week chow🤪

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  23. I’ll say one thing, what is this scene at 12:40, Joe is a stuntman that trains daily and Ming can hold him down, really?

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  25. They had a cat fight

    and didn’t even bother to check on Joe that was hurt because of them. Talk about priorities
    🤨 clearly Joe isn’t one, for either Ming or Sol. They were fighting like it was for a toy 🙄

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  26. I don’t blame Joe for wanting to catch up on what he missed during his absence. Such as…

    I do blame him for hastily returning to his original home even though he was not caught. However, Ming would find out since he has not given up on Joe’s return, hence, Ming still lives there and is waiting. Too bad Joe did not have enough time to place the key back under the pot.

    Idk how Ming works in the entertainment industry, remains living at Joe’s, and cooks would affect Joe? I cross fingers hoping Joe would not fall for the changed Ming. 🤞

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  27. I literally cried alot in this ep poor Joe didn’t deserve any of it… And the fact no one knows he is dead is heart breaking 😭 I fckin hate Ming for what he did to Joe when I thought he wouldn’t be that toxic he hit Joe on his head and locked him then had guts to say that I won’t treat you as a stand in anymore just come back to me.. like bro!? The world doesn’t revolve around you🤌🏻 bcs of your stupid action you literally destroyed a life and now you are waiting for him playing a good lover??

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  28. GAHHHHHHHHHH

    Joe hun you DESERVE so much better 😫 those guys are so not good for you.
    There I said it 💅 Sorry, not sorry, but it’s true. He needs self-love, freedom and dignity.

    Sol is an idol, suddenly comes back in the name of love? Did he really, or just like Ming he can’t accept that someone is trying to move on? Ming, not only is spoiled but toxic AF. He is in his 20’s not a child, and is still so heavily influenced by scum like Tong, even worse Ming caves in to his own delusional jealousy that he HAS the AUDACITY to do that do Joe… I’ve heard it’s worse in the novel, and they reversed here with Joe seducing in order to escape. Ngl we don’t need any more motives to hate Ming. There’s plenty already. Even that movie director was an A$$hole ffs! There were better ways to break things even & replace the cast if he wanted, instead of angrily doing so in front of the ACTORS and STUNTMENS alike. WTF is wrong with that guy?? What a temper. This whole deal, was a set of unfortunate events presented by utter scumbags, where the main victim was none other than Joe.

    Was that ending scene supposed to make us pity Ming? Ohhh BOO HOO, so what if he has been waiting for Joe, for two whole years, all this time heating the food into one more bowl and keeping the light on because it was what Joe likes? CRY ME A RIVER. I’m not sold on that yet. He needs to grovel and improve himself when facing Joe. Worse than him is Tong. The guy thrived, while Joe vanished… I wish Karma will come knocking on his door ASAP. A scandal, some shady business deal, his nasty self being exposed, I need him to have a bigger of a fall, than Joe did, in his career. Make it all crash & burn for all I care. Joe is going to change his life this time around, it sucks that he is surrounded by the same toxic people he should’ve left in the past. Fortunately, there’s still P’Wut, Yim and P’JoJo to help him out.

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  29. I also want Googoo this Google is so bad and old it doesn’t give information as the Googoo gives…🤣🤣🤣

    I love each second of this series …from intro to outro ….I just watched….I think after dark blue kiss this drama and wandee goodday intro I saw without skip….also like the outro …😅 Tried to read as many name as I can ….😂😂😂….

    As for episode I was all screaming and screaming to Joe No…..Noooo…..Nnnoooo 😂😂😂

    Seriously Joe handle the Ming so well just pack your things and get out …..all because of Ming Joe lost everything…..but Joe also makes some mistake….🥲….he shouldn’t has to go to that stunt after so many warnings by Pwut …he still have pwut….but I know Joe is hurt ..he want to prove him self….

    As for ming ….it’s to late to regret after all cause he is just crying like widow… waiting for love ….no he should first be punished….. That how he listen tong and chained Joe and stop him ( I was hoping to see some bdsm🫣🤭)

    (Ps- deep inside I was happy that Ming eyes are open ….and it’s just a gusse but Ming enter entertainment industry to find out clue about Joe death….)

    We will going see so many scenes of ming and pwut, Joe it’s going to fun to see the hates …😅😂

    Tong is a whole mastermind behind all this …he is cause of Joe death and silent the crew ….wants to control everything….

    As for Sol…. I need to appreciate the casting team and the actor…he just played it well …. everytime I see his character I get the negative aura from it …like I know he is a bad person hiding true colours….😅

    As for Joe it’s good choice to keep phoom after the body switch and show other face when it’s necessary….this give us more understanding also it’s doesn’t confuse us …

    ( What if phoom is replaced permanently after the accident and other one played lead role…..*generally happens in these type of storyline*… I think if this happens then this series will lost his shine…and charm…)

    The writer and director done great job …in execution.. 😍☺️

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